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up to our great twitter and joining us here on "the war room." one month until the election. >> welcome to the young turks. is it time panic we asked last night. the panic has begun. >> what do you hear about the cold hand of fear grabbing chicago? >> but i'm hearing chatter that there's maybe people from the last campaign are going to get a little more involved. >> now romney leads. which way does ohio go? tell you in a little bit. then big bird, guilty or not guilty? >> it's me, big with bird. >> big yellow, a menace to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about it's sesame street.
>> people are criticizing that ad. are they right or wrong? i will decide. later in the program, is this the world's worst wedding ever? >> in the video, you can see officers wield be batons. it was necessary to control the crowd which police say had been drinking. >> that's not even the elbow of the day although a couple of elbows did fly in that. all right it's go time! ♪ ♪ >> bernie madoff. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> glut tons of greed. one man has the gouts speak its name. >> it's me, big bird. >> i love big bird. >> somebody's cracking down on big bird. >> big yellow, a manness to our economy. >> he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> we just think it's time you
flew the coop. >> that was a good debate. i liked the debate. >> new strategies, just call it liars. >> don't pay attention to that behind the curtain. >> romney, ryan, 2012. yay! >> well, democrats woke up this morning with their hair on fire think what the hell is going on? why? because they saw polls like this. now, romney with the lead, 49-47 of likely voters in a glial lineup poll. things have swung dramatically. last night i told you colorado and ohio are still comfortably in president obama's camp and if they are nothing to worry about. new poll out, american research group, colorado, romney up by four. oops! >> ohio, as how goes the country goes? oh no!
48-47 romney in the lead in ohio at least according to american research group. all right, well, now conservatives have gotten so confident and cocky they're calling the election. >> the reason i think it's over of course, i thought it was over last week and the week before. romney's going to win. part of the evidence is this was the most watched debate since 1980 when reagan ran against carter and there was only one debate that year. what happened that year? that was the first time in the last 100 years republicans took out an incumbent. >> they're calling it. let's see how it turns out. fox late in the day said you know what, we've got a new map of our projections. that looks awfully red doesn't it? >> that's because not only is new mexico and minnesota all of a sudden colored red this isn't reality, by the way but pennsylvania is also a red tate too haring to them. if pennsylvanias red this election really is over.
it ain't red. fox is amazing. they do the exact opposite of liberals. liberals are in a panic. they're oh, my god we're going to lose! the minute they had the tiniest lead in some of the polls, fox news is like it's over! it's over! we're walking away from this thing. they want to get people to show up get their base excited. in the meanwhile who are they getting excited over? mitt romney. who is the real mitt romney? we've been asking for a year and a half now. there's an article about how the romney team that reimagined romney again! this time, apparently led by ann romney and tag romney. apparently tag romney got sick of his dad waffling and listening to everybody and hearing them out. according to a family friend:
>> look at that. isn't that amazing? here they are less than a month before the election and they're still to figure out who the hell mitt romney is and his son has to pull him aside and they view this as a positive thing tell his dad stop being so goddamn week and get up and stop being embarrassed about yourself. that's the guy they think should be president of the united states? >> oh, for christ's sake, how many public personas is he going to have. 28 days before the election, oh, let me figure out this public persona. he's mr. number 47. remember, what he says in public changes all the time. what he says in private is
what's really interesting. of course, everybody remembers mr. 47%. >> that's the real mitt romney, who doesn't give a damn about 47% of this country and no debate changed that. what, he was a better actor in the debate than president obama so all of a sudden he cares about the 47% because he's found a new public persona? this is a load of crap. don't get fooled into thinking mitt romney is actually the better candidate. he's a horrible candidate! the fact that president obama laid down in that debate drives me crazy. now, second number of 47 is
unrelated but also happens to be 47. he was 47th in job creation among 50 states when he was the governor of massachusetts. on what grounds does mitt romney talk about job creation. you didn't create jobs under bain or when you were government of massachusetts. jobs, what are you talking about jobs for? you don't know anything about jobs, 47 out of 50 and we're in a fight with this guy? he's leading now? you're kidding me! part of the reason is progressives are more honest than conservatives. when conservatives lose a debate oh, no, we won we won. i don't care, we won. what do liberals do, they said you're right we lost. >> president obama was not prepared for his huge debate. this isn't about left, right good or bad it's about coming
to work to work. >> i think he was taken aback at the brazenness. >> i believe that mr. obama took a licking last night. the public knows that. he seemed not disinterested but uninterested. he looked as if he really would rather be somewhere else. >> when you've got to lead, try to sit on the ball in basketball and you've got the lead, when you play conservative, you often lose the lead. >> the president bizarrely just failed to show up. >> i'm showing you one of the strongest headline, a full banner based on giving it completely to romney last night. >> barack obama frankly went to sleep. >> when liberals, progressives, democratic say he lost the debate, we're being honest, because he did lose the debate, what you have is an avalanche of everyone in the media all saying at the same time over and over again, he lost, he lost, he lost here, watch. >> the worst performance you've
seen in a presidential debate? the president was out-debated and less prepared than mitt romney. >> unless the president performs better in the next debate, they've got a problem. >> not only did we do a bad job we lied the whole way through the debates. >> romney obviously won so i'm very encouraged. i'm excited about the next debate. >> it's exciting to have a president be dominated. >> did he make a strategic position not to be aggressive in this debate. >> they've got a problem that is going to sustain for the next couple of weeks. >> a lot of americans have been deceived into believing that romney is the better candidate. part of the reason we're angry with president obama is he didn't call out the obvious lies of mitt romney, which were throughout the debate.
guys who have been supporting president obama are in absolute panic. new article saying that obama just throws the entire election away. >> so, how do they recover? let's bring in an epic answer for that. ♪ >> all right, michael shureer obviously our prettyical correspondent here. first, one more thing about the panic, michael. listen to nbc. >> internally, they never like to show that anything has changed, that nothing rocks the boat over there but i'm hearing chatter that there's maybe people from the last campaign's going to get a little more
involved at least in the debate prep aspect of things, wondering if, you know, how do you make the president sharper. we'll bring in people who were some of his sharpest communicators to do that. >> we disagree on why we had some problem in the first place. i think it's because his advises, who should be reconsidering strategy. you don't have to fire anybody reconsider i think they told him to lie down. >> i don't know anything the penalty did was something he was instructed to do. i think had he been debating as they wanted him to debate, then you would have had a point because then he probably would have been a little less engaging, a little bit more, you know less sort of angry at the lice than you wanted him to be, but the man who showed up for that debate was liftless. it had nothing to do with -- >> you think they told him to be
aggressive? >> i don't think so. i don't think that what you're saying happened. i think it would have happened in a perfect situation for obama, you'd still be sitting here saying it was -- >> that was democrats. his team had been running a great campaign up until the debate which is an aberration for democrats because normally they roll over. i think they went back to their reflex. >> they would have, in their perfect debate, let's say president obama showed up. he would have done exactly what you were saying and you would have been frustrated by that absolutely. it is a strategy to sort of stand aside let that other opponent flail be the president, stand up and just get through the debate without trouncing him. you want him to trounce him. the president didn't show up, a liftless, tired guy showed up for that debate. >> it's both, it's both. i got to show you how you should do it. new prime minister of australia
she was challenged. here's how she dealt with it. >> i will not be lectured about sexism and missogny by these men. i will not! not now not have. >> that's what i'm talking about. not now not ever! i want to see that. >> of all places to find balls in politics. >> god bless her. god bless her. all right, thank you michael. >> when we come back, big bird. should president obama have used him in an ad? i've got a strong opinion on that too. >> elmo is -- has been seen in a white suburban. he's driving for the border. oscar's hiding out in his trash can. >> while they're criticizing the president over that, i've got a different opinion on it. we have a presidential candidate on.
who? jill stein of the green party on the young turks. >> i'm voting for jill stein. >> we need jill stein for president. >> jill stein! (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> was this the game changer? is this going to change the dynamic? (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >> so keep on tweeting and maybe you'll have your voice be part of this democracy and see your tweets up on our screen. >>now that's politically direct.
and to big bird. president obama has been hitting the trail and hitting that theme pretty hard. >> finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. elmo has been seen in a white suburban he's driving for the border. oscar's hiding out in his trash can. we're crocking down on 'em. romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> i think that's really funny. i don't think there's anything wrong with that. they decided they were going to make a campaign ad out of it. >> bernie madoff, kenneth kozlowskis, glut to know of greed and the evil genius ho towered over them, one man has the guts to speak his name. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> it's me, big bird.
>> mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about, it's sesame street. >> i'll stop the subsidy to bbs. >> he'll take him out no matter where he nests. >> i like the ad. >> you have to question the president talking about saving big bird. i think we need to have a president that talks about saving the american people and our future. >> mitt romney is not alone. a lot of the media is saying that's absurd. i can't believe he would run that ad. it's not the right thing to talk about in the middle of this campaign. it's an interesting contrast. they are right in some ways, they are right and they're wrong. i'll get that that in one second. what's interesting is even sesame street is joining the critics putting out a statement saying:
>> no word yet on whether the obama camp has listened to big bird's request to take down the ad. now, i remember -- let me keep it real, i don't remember, but they reminded me today the news articles that mr. rogers had been challengedness day back in 1969. nixon threatened to cut $10 million for pbs in a very similar fight. mr. rogers went to congress and gave this testimony. >> i'm very much concerned as i know you are about what's being delivered to our children in this country and i've worked in the field of child development for six years now trying to understand the inner needs of children.
i give an expression of care every day to each child to help him realize he is unique. i end the program by saying you've made this day a special day by just you're being you. there's no person in the whole world like you and i like you just the way you are. >> the head of that committee said he was so moved by that that he had goose burns and decided fine, we will give you the funding. i guess we know the tunes when is the last time anybody was actually swayed by an argument in congress no 1969 and mr. rogers did it. that's not what people are swayed by now. is it a legitimate offense for president obama to go down this route? there was something interesting in that ad that he did. there were three guys named, ken lay, the head of enron. but here's the problem.
obama administration didn't take down ken lay. he was taken down during the bush administration. kozlowski was prosecuted during the bush administration. bernie madoff, his son turned him in under the bush administration. where are the heads of j.p. morgan and country wide, all these companies that caused that epic collapse, also under the bush administration? did they get prosecuted under the obama administration? the definitive answer is hell no. they didn't get prosecuted so much, president obama couldn't find a single one prosecuted under his watch that he could put in that ad. so what's sad is unfortunately president obama isn't that much better than mitt romney on this issue. i wish he was tough on wall street so that that ad could make a ton of sense. look is mitt romney going to let off wall street even more? of course! of course!
he's going to get rid of dodd frank. it's incredibly weak and mitt romney instead of wanting weak regulations wants none. is it right to compare sesame street and wall street? absolutely. it gives you a sense of their priorities. here's what i wish the add focused on. pbs gets $23.2 million from the government. big deal. do you know how much sheldon adelson would get under mitt romney's tax plan? a savings of over $2 billion, 22 million versus $2 billion. that's just one guy. that's the real big bird. now, that's not all. how about bush's tax cuts no romney wants to extend them and add 20% on top. if you just extended the bush tax cuts it would add a trillion dollars to our deficit. why? mcmitt romney is looking out for the rich, speaking of which, how about the iraq war?
mitt romney was in favor of it, the entire republican party. how much did that cost? is this estimates have it as high as $5 trillion. and you're talking to me about big bird? you're talking to me about big bird? $22 million you want to cut and your dumb ass war cost $5 trillion. your tax cuts for sheldon adelson cost $2 billion. i'm not having the conversation about big bird and cutting down his nest until we talk to the other guys first. on the essence of that, the obama campaign is right. >> when we come back, the republicans are so loathesome they've now got a lobby to make sure that we are not protected from cancer. >> we have 15 homes in this area and maybe 11 people have died or more with cancer.
>> the koch brothers are killing me and my family. >> and how are they buying politicians to do it? you'll find out in the next segment. and then, the romney girls. they found women in favor of romney. >> the guy i'm voting for is not (vo) always outspoken, now unleashed. joy behar. >> on my next show, rain pryor go dancer mom, richard pryor for a dad, and a madame for great grandmother. hello, paging dr. freud.
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make formaldehyde said we have a great idea. we want a follow up report. that sounds pretty good, right? a follow-up report. no. they say we cannot do anymore report from the actual scientists until the follow up report is in. how long is it going to take to do the follow up report? four years. in other words shh! don't tell anybody about the cancer. god, this is sick how our system is bought. meanwhile, here's other ways they lobby. they come up with this ridiculous formaldehyde facts.com and on it says it is a natural product part of the world, it's made by our bodies and occurs in the air that we breathe. it's not trees and you see so many are having fun with
formaldehyde. >> van guard had us a documentary about tobacco. let's watch what they used to do. >> t.v. commercials like these are evidence of big tobaccos glory days. cigarettes were cheap costing the same as a candy bar. you could smoke pretty much anywhere and everywhere, and everybody, it seemed, was encouraging you to just do it. celebrities were endorsing cigarettes. doctors were endorsing cigarettes. even fred flintstone was endorsing cigarettes. ♪ ♪ >> now he's is encouraging you to smoke cigarettes especially if you lived in russia turns out mitt romney and bain and company. zack carter joins us from the huffing to know post. he did the investigation. zack tell me what bain company
did when mitt romney was running it in this reward? >> so this is bain and company the consulting firm that sort of gives advice to other big corporations, if it doesn't take them over and loot them for all they're worth and lay off all the employees the big critique with bain capitol. mitt started rung bain and co. one of the first clients was phillip morris. they quickly moved into the russian market, post soviet phase where all the big factories are being privatized and going into the economy. bain under romney gets a contract with the united states government a $3.9 million contract to go be and advicer in russia. they think that the russian economy could handle a 33%
larger load of smoking than it's currently happening, because the soviet economy is not good at marketing. they start advicing big tobacco companies on how to take over those newly privatized assets. they end up helping british american tobacco buy a couple of factories in russia so this big national conglomerate which had no presence at all in russia is now today one of the largest companies in the country with a 25% stake of the market and the most popular brand in the country while smoking rates have been skyrocketing in russia. >> it's interesting, they got a government contract. i'm told by the republicans they hate government contracts but when they're profiting for one it's funny how they'll take one. why does the government care about phillip morris selling more cigarettes in russia? why is that our government's
business? >> bain is working with british american tobacco. our government wasn't particularly interested in multi-national tobacco countries. they were interested in taking state owned communist resources and making them available to the public so they could be in the hands of market economy giving the russians a take in their economy. what actually happened was the opposite all the russian assets ends up in the hands of the oligarchs. bain and company, in the first two years of this privatization project is doing 40% of all the sales in moscow and russia where the biggest deals are done, but thousands of these deals. then they leverage these contacts that the u.s. government has funded them with into sweetheart deals for big tobacco companies. >> of course mitt romney is a
mormon and wouldn't smoke himself, but doesn't mind pushing it to hundreds of millions of russian. how did they advertise cigarettes to take off more. >> bain is really good as doing these very dry statistical market analysis. they go into russia with these top experts and performed that analysis. it's really hard to do it there because it's hard to get the research. they don't have the infrastructure. they've got these wall street guys running around russia in a van offering free cigarettes and mcdonald's hamburgers to locals in a different town. what could we do to make this more appealing to you. what could we do to make you smoke more. they figure out exactly what russians want and suggest marketing campaigns about
emphasizing national pride things like that. russian only brands, things like that and it totally works. british american tobacco gets their tobacco and production starts going through the roof. >> take away the suits and they remind me of certain peddlers of a different kind of drug, but interesting note. zack really interesting article involving the post. thanks for joining us, appreciate it. >> thank you very much, chenk. >> jill stein of the green party, what does she have to offer that's different? a lot. >> what we don't deserve is pandering irresponsible bull [bleep] passing itself off at campaigning. i can't believe i just said that. >> i can't either. she's going to be on the program. and then, we've got the elbow of the day. who's it on? you should (vo) always outspoken, now unleashed. joy behar. >> on my next show, rain pryor
>> there are a couple of real progressives in this presidential race. they just don't happen to be departments. one of them is dr. stein a presidential candidate for the green party and joins us here on young turks. obviously you've got long odds on getting elected, let's start with medicare for all. what is that, what would you do in rewards to health care with that issue? >> medicare for all is the health care system that people are clamoring for because the affordable care act whether you call it romney care or obamacare and they were agreeing during
the debates that they're basically the same thing it's not doing it for us. i live in massachusetts and we know it's neither affordable nor caring, when you get sick, you find out you're not covered. medicare for all is basically what's working right now, that is medicare, providing comprehensive health care. what we want to do is just drop the eligibility age so that you're covered from the moment of conception, and basically that's the what it does. it shrinking that massive wasteful insurance bureaucracy that's now eating up 30% of your health care dollar. instead, that actually goes into health care to provide great care, like every other developed country around the world virtually is providing at half the cost of what we're paying per cap at a and it saves trillions of dollars over the coming decade, because it gets
rid of medical inflation which is what keeps driving up your cost. >> we're number 37 in the world. if we go with your proposal, we might be 38 or 39. >> exactly. >> you know that medicare is something that's incredibly popular not just based on the polls, but even when the republicans look to change it, they go i'm not going to do it for current seniors because they love it. can you imagine if we had a health care program that we all loved? wouldn't that be amazing? the second topic the big banks we are told those guys are necessary to the economy. there's nothing we can do about that. what kind of reform would you do in the financial industry? >> well, instead of bailing out the banks, we should be breaking them up, and separating the commercial from the investment banks and creating publicly owned banks that can actually do the job that the banks are not doing. we're bailing them out to the
tune of 4.5 trillion in dollars given away, plus 16 trillion in zero interest loans which also costs us. beheard they began the third quantitative easing to bail them out again for the fourth time. we should be bailing out the students and homeowners. we want to break up the banks create the public banks and tax wall street so they, too be paying a sales tax. why should they be the only economic sector that is not paying? that would bring money into our economy for things that we need. >> not just since 2007, but over the last two years average income has declined. that's a huge problem for president obama. is that fair to say that's his fault, because he bailed out the banks just like bush did and didn't give any relief to the homeowners. >> exactly no relief to the
homeowners, as to the students who are basically a generation of in dentured servants. this transpacific partnership is nafta on summer recognized off shoring our jobs and undermining wages. he is giving away the store to wall street over and over again without actually doing the things we can do. we're calling for a green new deal which would use our dollars for creating jobs directly not for more tax breaks for the job creators to create more jobs in india and china. he has his priorities mixed up. he does need to be held accountable not only for shipping jobs overseas, bailing out wall street, allowing student and homeowner debt to skyrocket, expanding the wars. it was george bush's date of withdrawal that actually brought our troops home from iraq, it
wasn't this president who went on to surge the troops and start bombing the heck out of pakistan and day three of his administration and expand the drone wars. we are calling for a green new deal at home and down sizing the military and bringing our troops home which is another way we can ensure we're spending our tax dollars creating true security at home, not creating havoc and mayhem overseas which is coming back to haunt us in the demonstrations and protests against the united states and our embassies and our forces getting shot up by afghanistan. >> dr. jill stein, thank you so much for joining us, running for president. >> great to be with you chenk. >> i know the conundrum. what if you're in a swing state and it goes to romney? i know. we're just presenting the choices for you guys. >> what we come back, what might be the world's worst wedding. >> officers are wielding batons,
force the department said was necessary. (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the vice presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> was this the game changer? is this going to change the dynamic? (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >> so keep on tweeting and maybe you'll have your voice be part of this democracy and see your tweets up on our screen. >>now that's politically direct.
>> more fallout from the all out brawl captured in this post wedding video. overnight, the groom's brother was released from jail in philadelphia after being charged with numerous counts of assault reckless endangerment and inciting a riot. he was tased by police early sunday morning. the massive melee is blamed for the death of the bride says uncle. these pictures show her still in her wedding dress apparently overcome with grief. police discovered her at her uncle's unconscious outside. he later reportedly after suffering a heart attack. >> now the person recording that video in the video says did they just deck the bride? i mean it was an absolute mess. now the cops come in to straighten it out but now are being charged with police
brutality. here's the story about that. >> people who were there are now firing back at the police response. in the video, you can see officers wielding batons, force the department says was necessary to control the crowd which police say had been drinking. monday the bride's friend tweeted your actions at saturday night's hotel fight were despicable. shame on you. >> now we know who started at a that massive fight at the wedding. michael and anna, let me start with you. >> i wanted to mention something about the police brutality. cops actually had to ask for back up several times because the brawl was so massive and they couldn't keep control of all the people, so i think that it's kind of understandable that they reacted in the way that they did so just that quick point. also, this is perfect evidence for why i don't want to have a
big wedding. i want to have the smallest possible wedding. >> that doesn't always happen. >> weddings are always drama. it's drama leading up to the wedding, after the wedding people get hurt, feelings get hurt. they want to be seated next to specific people. they don't like the food, they don't like your dress shut up! >> a rant by anna, i love it. >> all that comes to light after all these concerns, they get drunk. it's this wedding a couple of them drink! >> yeah! >> pleases that some of them were drinking. really? at an italian wedding in philly. i didn't see that coming. >> maybe they needed backup and didn't know how to ham the situation. fighting never ends from more fighting. >> i think the police are not guilty here. we've done a lot of police brutality stories here. you got the guys shot with the
handcuffs, there's a million of them shot in a wheelchair. this thing is out of control. they've got to get it under control. god knows how much trouble they had get that go guy under control. >> they throw fire on them? >> i love that it took place on society hill, too. that's funny and ironic. >> totally ironic. i don't know, at some point the police have to do their job and i agree with you chenk they get called in to what this is. i wasn't there and only saw these video clips but it seems things are out of control the police come in and control it. >> how often do you see the cops going after the poor people accused of abuse of power here there on society hill. back to anna's point, do we make too big a deal out of weddings?
>> yes. >> in general. >> it's going to be the greatest day of your life! >> i hate the high expectations. i hate having to please everyone else. the wedding is very rarely about the couple. it's about appeasing everyone in the family. i can't stand it. if i could get away with it, i would do -- i would elope. i think eloping. >> this is one of those rare instances when the marriage will undoubtedly be better than the wedding. >> you think so? >> hopefully. >> maybe it's old jersey, that looked fun to me. [ laughter ] >> maybe i wander into a pizza place and say paisan. of course the uncle died, which i feel terrible about. he didn't get beat to death. he had a heart attack. >> i don't remember being tased at your wedding. >> they didn't call in cops, but i remember being blitzkrieged.
the greatest night of my life, which i remember 20% of. i'm with anna. going to leave it right there. appreciate it, guys. viewpoint coming up next on current. eliot is going to have bernie sanders on, he was in charge of a commission to straighten out the financial institutions. how did that work? elliot's going to ask him. when we come back, i've got a couple of elbows. you'll see who its for. ok. they're on romney's side, but you got
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